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Hector Avalos Blogs

Posted by NT Wrong on August 5, 2008

Debunking Christianity has announced that Hector Avalos will be a regular, yet infrequent, blogger.

Here’s a clip in which Hector Avalos explains why he went from Christian, child evangelist, and faith healer to atheist:

14 Responses to “Hector Avalos Blogs”

  1. steph said

    You tube doesn’t work on my machine. I’m not that bothered this time. One of the comments on DB says “Christians may not like what Dr. Avalos has to say, but then real objective truth has few religious friends anyway.” I don’t know about “objective truth” and some people, never having been Christian people, don’t like the way he says what he says, or why he says it. I wonder if he says anything different from other “ex Christians” here.

  2. steph said

    …not so much “ex Christians” as ex fundamentalist Christian biblical scholars – eg Bob Funk et al from American Jesus Seminar, Richard Dawkins etc despising religion seeing it through old fundamentalist eyes…

  3. ntwrong said

    Once a fundie always a fundie. He’s just batting for the other side, now.

  4. steph said

    and neither side is capable of so called “objective truth”.

  5. Hjalti said

    In what way is he a fundie now?

  6. ntwrong said

    Avalos is a fundie in manner and to a lesser extent in content. In manner, he is doctrinaire about his own beliefs, with a tendency to generalise about the opposition.

  7. Everyone’s range of beliefs lie either to the right or left of someone else’s.

    And beliefs that lay further outside our own range are viewed like distant, obscure, less inconsequential, objects, and spoken about in a more generalized fashion, such as confusing all Christians with fundamentalists, or all atheists with fundamentalists.

    I’m an agnostic who would like reason enough to hope for more, but my mind continues to find the unanswered questions to be in the majority and the unquestioned answers to be in the minority.

    I’m also a member of DB.

    And if you read some of Hector’s posts there, like the one on Sargon, or on the Darwin-Hitler question, you’ll find much basic information, and much to think about. Maybe you won’t agree with everything he’s written, but I find him worth reading.

    Lastly, I think both Christians like yourselves at this blog, and atheists at DB can both agree there are some Christians in the past and present and some atheists in the past and present who have done a great disservice to their beliefs.

    Doctrinairre types of Christianity that have literally everything in this world and the next figured out, when combined with governmental power, are to be abhorred just as doctrinaiire types of atheism that have literally all the forces of history figured out (dialectical materialistic communism) backed by governmental power. Both are systems of government neither I nor the folks on this blog would be eager to live under. Am I correct? So both the NT Wrong crowd and the Debunking Christianity crowd would seem to agree, and lay somewhere in a wide middle ground on that question.

    I think both NT Wrong and DB folks would also agree in rejecting young-earth creationism, or perhaps even old-earth creationism–in which species popped into existence and then became extinct (sometimes in massive acts of extinction) millions of years before the first human beings ever arose.

    Another thing both NT Wrong and DB folks might agree on is the rejection of anyone who bilks the faithful via religious affinity frauds, or via promises of faith healing, etc.

    So perhaps NT Wrong and DB have a bit more in common than either realize.

    There’s also geocentrist Christians today, and King James Only Bible Believers, and other weird religious sects that both NT Wrong and DB reject.

  8. ntwrong said

    Thanks for your comments, Ed. However, I didn’t have much problem with the content of Avalos’s posts. Quite frequently, however, his manner is doctrinaire and dismissive of rather than properly engaging opponents. It is this manner which still shows traces of his earlier Christian fundamentalism — now in the service of atheism. Positively, however, Avalos is well worth reading, because he often cuts through a lot of crap in biblical studies. Things may not be quite as black-and-white as he paints it, though.

  9. ntwrong said

    BTW: I thought Alan Lenzi’s comments in his review of The End of Biblical Studies were very good:
    http://www1.pacific.edu/~alenzi/Avalos.pdf

  10. stephanie louise fisher said

    Hahahaha again. Always so convenient. Once a fundie, always a fundie.

  11. max benser said

    MR HEKTOR AVALOS IS A SAME BIG HUMANIST, LIKE FRANZ BUGGLE OR FRIEDREICH NIETZSCHE, OR IF YOY WANT, MAX BENSE TOO!!!

  12. max benser said

    FROM DEUTERONOMY,S GENOCIDAL GOD, TO G. W. BUSH AND BARACK OBAMA!
    1. FRom Fort DEtrick to Biological&Chemical War in Gaza, Falluja or Damaskus!!!

  13. max benser said

    The Bible is Moralbasic of NATO, U.S. – ARMY, CIA, PENTAGON and EUROPAN UNION!!!
    And what we have now? Migrantstragedy in Europe!!! This is a US-Military Politic around the World! (Dirty US – Wars!!! )

  14. max benser said

    FROM GENOCIDE IN DEUTERONOMY, TO GENOCIDE IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN&VIETNAM&SYRIA&LYBIA!!!

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